Today’s member interview is with Peg Cheng (ENFJ).
We also followed up with a podcast conversation: 🎧 episode #22: Peg Cheng
Hi Peg, can we kick things off by finding out where in the world you currently reside? Is this also where you grew up?
I was born and raised in Southern California or SoCal as locals call it. Specifically, I grew up in Huntington Beach (HB), which is an oxymoron of kickback conservatism. So, for instance, HB is full of skaters and surfers and I’m glad I grew up in a place where kids ran around barefoot after school, but when I got older, I discovered that many of my friends’ parents were conservatives and voting against all the things that I believed in. I look back on that time and that place with mixed emotions. After living in SoCal for 23 years, I then moved to Seattle to attend graduate school at the University of Washington, and I’ve lived here in the Emerald City for 25 years thus far.
When did you first do the Myers-Briggs test?
I was in my late-20s when I took the full MBTI test and had it professionally analyzed. I had taken some other personality assessments before but this was the first time I went through the official test with a career counselor that followed up with me and gave me the whole nine yards. It was a fantastic experience. I learned that I was an ENFJ but that I fall in the middle of the spectrum between Extrovert and Introvert. I’ve always felt like I could go either way depending on the situation. My NFJ are solid, but my E and I are more malleable.
Has discovering your personality type impacted you in any meaningful way? If so, how?
Reading The INFJ Writer by Lauren Sapala changed my life and how I thought of myself as a writer. When I was reading that book, I thought, how did Lauren spy on me every day and then write this book?! That’s how much I could relate to it and I know I’m not the only one who feels this way. Reading that book in 2016 really got me thinking that I’m more like an INFJ than an ENFJ, and that it’s perfectly fine and good to write and create the way that fits my personality, my preferences, and my quirks.
Was there a moment in your life when you made a drastic change?
Pick a year and I’ll tell you what drastic change(s) happened. Seriously, I change myself and make major changes to my life all the freakin’ time. Not kidding.
Do you have a preferred creative/artistic outlet? Can you tell us a bit about this?
My main creative outlets are writing, arranging beautiful things together and then taking photos of them, drawing, cooking, and baking.
Would you describe yourself as a highly sensitive person (HSP), or an empath?
Yes and yes, but I usually don’t describe myself this way.
What does being successful look like to you?
Maya Angelou sums it up nicely: “Success is liking yourself, liking what you do, and liking how you do it.”
Do you like to plan things, or are you more of a go-with-the-flow type of person?
Both. I plan things out in an overarching way then allow myself to improv within that. For example, I planned a 3-week trip to Iceland eight months ahead of time and had the plane tickets booked and the accommodations all set. Then I let my hubs Marcus know what I wanted to see (puffins, Icelandic ponies, etc.) and he made a list of what else he thought would be cool to see and experience. Then, during the vacation, we would decide the night before or the morning of, what we were going to do that day. I don’t like tightly scheduled itineraries. So, plan the general stuff and then leave lots of room for doing what feels right in the moment.
Is there anything you've read, watch or listened to recently, that you've loved?
I am knocking my book selections out of the park this year. Seriously, I’m kinda amazed at how almost every book I’ve picked to read so far this year in 2020 has been blowing my mind. Just to name a few recent ones: Dark Horse by Todd Rose & Ogi Ogas, Goodbye, Things by Fumio Sasaki, Get Rich, Lucky Bitch by Denise Duffield-Thomas, and Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport. I’m currently reading The Empath’s Journey by Ritu Kaushal and am enjoying it immensely.
And do you have any favourite blogs or podcasts?
I love your blog, Jas, and Lauren Sapala’s blog, natch. I also enjoy Never Ending Voyage, a blog from two digital nomads that have been traveling the world for ten years. For podcasts, the ones I listen to every week are Tarot Bytes, Design Matters, and Oprah’s Super Soul Sundays. I also loved What’s Good with Stretch and Bobbito but unfortunately, they stopped after only two seasons.
How about favourite movies or TV shows? Anything you've seen recently that you'd recommend?
I know it’s probably sacrilege to some folks, but I cancelled my Netflix this year. I had been a subscriber since the first year they opened--I think it was about 17 years ago or something like that--and had finally reached a point where I was spending more time searching for good shows to watch than actually watching shows. There was a lot of separating the chaff from the wheat, if you know what I mean. That said, my favorite shows before I cancelled were the Great British Baking Show, Better Call Saul, Queer Eye in Japan, Rilakkuma and Kaoru, and The Crown. Also, one of my favorite TV shows of all time was Life on Mars, season 1, from 2006.
If you could go back in time and meet yourself back in 2010, is there any advice that you'd give this younger self?
The next 10 years as an entrepreneur are going to be harder than any of your previous jobs but it will be worth it. Stick with it, girl!
If you could give one or two pieces of advice to INFs and other club members, what would they be?
“Listen to yourself more than you listen to other people” is my mantra. Also, if you’re going to get feedback from anyone, listen to what Brene Brown said: “If you’re not in the arena also getting your ass kicked, I’m not interested in your feedback.” I’ve had to learn that lesson so many times. I’ve finally reached a point in my life where I no longer ask for advice, feedback, or approval from people who aren’t also in the arena taking risks, changing, learning, and evolving.
What does self-care mean for you? How do you practise it?
Self-care to me means doing what feels right to you no matter what other people say or what you think they might be saying. Every one of us has a wise self deep inside that’s trying to steer us the right way that’s the best fit for us. Some people call it intuition. I know for me that the more I follow my intuition, the more I treat myself well, and the more I’m able to live my best life.
Do you have a favourite quote?
“You can’t change other people, you can only change yourself. But if you change yourself, the whole system changes.” -- My therapist told me this quote but it’s not from her. I love this quote and try to remind myself of it all the time.
Where can others find and connect with you online?
You can connect with me at pegcheng.com and on Twitter @pegcheng. I’m also on LinkedIn--just search for “Peg Cheng” and when you send a connect request, let me know you found me through the INF club.
Published: 14th August, 2020
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